The podcast charts have largely been dominated by shows with a conservative or pro-Trump voice, and the likes of Joe Rogan, Shawn Ryan and Ben Shapiro ... and are ready to stand up for democracy." ...

And as for beating out the likes of Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro, Meiselas said it's "great ... regardless of political party." So what's next for MeidasTouch? Meiselas said that they see Fox ...

Jon Stewart pushed back on Jen Psaki calling podcasters like Joe Rogan and Theo Von part of ... They are not Ben Shapiro. They are very different animals. They are not invested in.